Sunday, September 27, 2015

Reddit.com/r/EVE Moderator Censorship on ISBoxer usage



I was banned on /r/EVE for discussing some of the new upcoming ISBoxer features, something used by thousands of players in EVE. The features arent even controversial except these particular mods cant separate their personal feelings on 3rd party software with doing their jobs as neutral moderators of a discussion forum.

There are a few moderators with an axe to grind with the software, lashing out a myself as I am an advocate for its usage as a key and helpful feature to multiboxing in EVE Online.



The most recent blow up was posting a video showing that ISBoxer 2.0 (in Alpha) that when I 1st posted, was removed with zero indication as to why.  When I asked why it was removed, /u/spysix asked that I post it to the official forums THEN to post that link to Reddit, which I did.  He stated that if CCP allows its discussion, then its fine for /r/EVE.  

Following moderators /u/spysix advice, I was banned by JayneF or Gorski Car (who’s professionalism of telling me to “get f**ked” when I asked why I was banned is ridiculous)

Typically the argument is that its against the EULA (it’s not) or that recently that because its not directly EVE related it cannot be discussed in /r/EVE (also a laughable excuse).

The EULA defense also holds no water.  There is one feature, of dozens, that is not allowed to be used in EVE (same time input duplication) while the rest are within what we can tell of CCP’s vague statement on multiboxing features.  It’s most basic and arguably most useful features are well within the EULA as its currently interpreted (window management and CPU optimization).

Saying it's not eve related is being disingenuous at best, lying at worse.  It's used by thousands of people in EVE including huge in-game personalities / Fc's, streamers etc.

If there is some new rule that if its not directly EVE related software it cannot be discussed, then please also clearly state on the sidebar that any discussion of isboxer, teamspeak, slack, jabber, Irc, Mumble or any number of other 3rd party programs are not eve related and will result in a ban if you discuss them on /r/Eve.

This is a simple problem.  There are 2 rules on the sidebar pertaining to anything in this sphere.

ISBoxer *is* EVE related as much as teamspeak, jabber etc is and ISBoxer usage is *not* against the EULA.

I am sorry a few moderators here cannot seem to wrap their heads around it, but you cannot make up arbitrary rules because you “like” something. There are some good moderators in /r/EVE (who are active) like Chribba and Spysix, but some of them are a joke.  Your job is to be fair, balanced and to enforce the established rules, not be a child and lash out when someone does something that upsets your feelings.

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